Last night, for the second time this year, I watched in open-mouthed amazement Paul McMullan talking about the News of the World (NOTW) phone-hacking scandal.

He was a journalist at the News of the World between 1994 and 2001.

This is a partial transcript of the BBC Newsnight discussion on phone-hacking, the interception of messages left on Milly Dowler’s phone, first broadcast 5 July 2011.

It only includes the discussion directly involving Paul McMullan.

This is a full(-ish) transcript of the discussion on phone hacking from episode #12 of C4's 10 O'Clock Live, first broadcast on Thursday 7 April 2011.